$10,000 for an Ad Campaign?
Marketing, Money and More - Issue 1 (11-22-07)
I have been with Virgen Advertising for 4 years, 3 of which I have been the lead business developer. We are a mid-sized Vegas agency with small accounts that spend a few thousand dollars here and there and very large accounts that spend millions of dollars annually. I have had clients from Strip casinos to the mom-and-pop's running a corner restaurant. The question keeps coming into play over and over and over from all size clients and there is never really an answer that seems to pacify everyone.
Why does and ad campaign cost $10,000 to create? Did it really take your artists that long? The creative concepting time seems a bit excessive, can't you just spend less time on it?
I do my best to combat these questions and the answer can involve one or all three of the following:
Hourly Rate
When a service is ongoing such as public relations or strategic planning, an hourly rate is applied. Marketing is endless. There is always more you can do, but there is usually a budgetary restriction that tells us what an agency can accomplish for a client. If the client asks, "How much should I spend on my marketing monthly?" My answer is, "Well... you need to spend what makes sense to remain profitable and reach your growth goals." Agencies will maximize every dollar you give them. It is up to the client to say, "I have $50,000 dollars and I want to increase covers in my restaurant by 30 covers (restaurant lingo meaning table customers) a week."
Wow! A dollar amount and a goal. That's all we need. I would then tell the client that with such a limited budget, we should try public relations and lifestyle marketing to increase word of mouth and get some good press on the food, chef, ambience, etc. We would need a minimum of 30 hours per month to work on this, so a retainer of roughly $3,000 - $4,000 would be sufficient to cover the amount of time our professionals would spend selling the local media on the client's restaurant. At that hourly rate, we would eat up the budget in a year. We may even recommend scaling back PR and employing some offer-based direct marketing to promote sampling. You begin to see how there are varoius ways we can apply a budget. This leads us to the next topic...
Value of Service
When we talk about creative, we are talking about art. What makes a Picasso worth millions and my water color paintings worth less than the blank piece of paper I started with? The answer is the amount of people that find the Picasso appealing and the laws of supply and demand. Now I'm not saying that ad agencies are pumping out masterpieces, BUT they are bringing appeal to your message through the use of images and text that connect with your target emotionally. What's that worth? My watercolor painting is awesome to me, but the world wouldn't pay a dime to have it. It's worthless and will not capture the attention of anyone. It can't be used to deliver a message.
In our example, we talked about a restaurant. Let's say the agency quotes the restaurant $10,000 to do a print campaign. Did it take 100 hours? The final ad probably didn't. The 30 versions prior to getting to the final probably took a chunk of time. Are we using pictures of food from the restaurant? Do we have any? Will there be a photo shoot or will we look for stock images? STOP. This is where it starts to spin out of control for the small restaurant owner. If you are a restaurant that is losing money (as is industry standard in the first year of operation) then this may not sound like such a good idea, but if you are a restaurant chain and you have 5 locations, this may be a great idea and worth every expense.
The point is what? Although each client will have varying hours to develop an ad, we charge $10,000 to put together a branding campaign. The market across the country says that $10,000 is what a branding campaign is worth. Somewhere in there the agency costs are covered and somewhere in every agency business plan is something about profit so there is some of that accounted for. Negotiate. Tell the agency what you are willing to pay. If you don't like their work that much you should probably be talking to another firm anyway; however, if you love their work and they have case studies and references proving that their creative expertise sells then you as the client need to decide if your brand is worth the expense and if it has value.
ROI Is the Answer
Return on Investment (ROI) or Return on Opportunity (ROO) are what should guide client decisions about marketing. If a campaign will yeild no returns, do you execute it? Probably not unless the wife of the owner likes the color blue and puppies and wants to see her last name on a billboard. Look at your annual revenues and ask yourself, "What is the maximum amount I can spend if I want to grow by 20% this year?" That is a key question. It has a goal attached that can be used to calculate a dollar amount. If you are a start-up, then this is probably mapped out in your business plan. Now you can go to an advertising agency with a marketing budget and a sense of what ROI needs to be obtained from the spend. The agency will tell you if they think your budget can achieve your ROI goals. You may need to adjust based on recommendations.
All Firms are Unique
There is very little that is uniform in the marketing world. Standarization occurs where it can, but "best practices" are not always established for the ever-changing world of advertising. Match your business with a firm that complements it. If you have $50,000 a year to spend, then you probably aren't talking to Young & Rubicam. You are probably speaking to a small-to-mid-sized firm with less than 50 people. The larger the agency, the bigger the building, the more equipment, the more toilette paper, the more books, the more media research subscriptions, the more payroll, the more, the more, the more. Costs of providing the tools and space to manage all the various disciplines of marketing go up with agency size and that affects rates and prices. A good agency cost more just like a good interior designer costs more.
You Get Out What You Put In it
Each agency will have its own process. A good agency will spend many hours and involve multiple people in the creative process to deliver the very best ideas to the client. Another agency might allow one guy to spend 2 hours and you get the best idea that came from that one person in that short time. I don't care how creative that one guy is, he needs time to think of ideas. You get what you pay for. More time usually means more creativity. The one who spends less time will be able to charge a lower price in less time at the cost of mediocre creative at the end of today. If mediocre is appealing to your audience, then go with it. I've seen it work. If your brand demands the very best and your audience will judge you by the level of your branding, then you will end up paying for the extra time. Now you begin to understand what price speaks to.
A firm of 5 people that can charge $200 for a print ad can't be compared to a firm that has 50 employees and charges $10,000 for a print campaign. Price cannot be the sole factor in this decision. There has to be a fit in so many other places as well as countless other considerations. Do your homework.
I will be posting more and more about these issues in order to educate business people that haven't had enough experience with agencies to know what they need to know. I've seen a lot of people get burned and then they don't trust agencies and every nickel on an invoice becomes and epic battle. The next post will be on agency selection processes.
I have been with Virgen Advertising for 4 years, 3 of which I have been the lead business developer. We are a mid-sized Vegas agency with small accounts that spend a few thousand dollars here and there and very large accounts that spend millions of dollars annually. I have had clients from Strip casinos to the mom-and-pop's running a corner restaurant. The question keeps coming into play over and over and over from all size clients and there is never really an answer that seems to pacify everyone.
Why does and ad campaign cost $10,000 to create? Did it really take your artists that long? The creative concepting time seems a bit excessive, can't you just spend less time on it?
I do my best to combat these questions and the answer can involve one or all three of the following:
- Value
- Time
- ROI
Hourly Rate
When a service is ongoing such as public relations or strategic planning, an hourly rate is applied. Marketing is endless. There is always more you can do, but there is usually a budgetary restriction that tells us what an agency can accomplish for a client. If the client asks, "How much should I spend on my marketing monthly?" My answer is, "Well... you need to spend what makes sense to remain profitable and reach your growth goals." Agencies will maximize every dollar you give them. It is up to the client to say, "I have $50,000 dollars and I want to increase covers in my restaurant by 30 covers (restaurant lingo meaning table customers) a week."
Wow! A dollar amount and a goal. That's all we need. I would then tell the client that with such a limited budget, we should try public relations and lifestyle marketing to increase word of mouth and get some good press on the food, chef, ambience, etc. We would need a minimum of 30 hours per month to work on this, so a retainer of roughly $3,000 - $4,000 would be sufficient to cover the amount of time our professionals would spend selling the local media on the client's restaurant. At that hourly rate, we would eat up the budget in a year. We may even recommend scaling back PR and employing some offer-based direct marketing to promote sampling. You begin to see how there are varoius ways we can apply a budget. This leads us to the next topic...
Value of Service
When we talk about creative, we are talking about art. What makes a Picasso worth millions and my water color paintings worth less than the blank piece of paper I started with? The answer is the amount of people that find the Picasso appealing and the laws of supply and demand. Now I'm not saying that ad agencies are pumping out masterpieces, BUT they are bringing appeal to your message through the use of images and text that connect with your target emotionally. What's that worth? My watercolor painting is awesome to me, but the world wouldn't pay a dime to have it. It's worthless and will not capture the attention of anyone. It can't be used to deliver a message.
In our example, we talked about a restaurant. Let's say the agency quotes the restaurant $10,000 to do a print campaign. Did it take 100 hours? The final ad probably didn't. The 30 versions prior to getting to the final probably took a chunk of time. Are we using pictures of food from the restaurant? Do we have any? Will there be a photo shoot or will we look for stock images? STOP. This is where it starts to spin out of control for the small restaurant owner. If you are a restaurant that is losing money (as is industry standard in the first year of operation) then this may not sound like such a good idea, but if you are a restaurant chain and you have 5 locations, this may be a great idea and worth every expense.
The point is what? Although each client will have varying hours to develop an ad, we charge $10,000 to put together a branding campaign. The market across the country says that $10,000 is what a branding campaign is worth. Somewhere in there the agency costs are covered and somewhere in every agency business plan is something about profit so there is some of that accounted for. Negotiate. Tell the agency what you are willing to pay. If you don't like their work that much you should probably be talking to another firm anyway; however, if you love their work and they have case studies and references proving that their creative expertise sells then you as the client need to decide if your brand is worth the expense and if it has value.
ROI Is the Answer
Return on Investment (ROI) or Return on Opportunity (ROO) are what should guide client decisions about marketing. If a campaign will yeild no returns, do you execute it? Probably not unless the wife of the owner likes the color blue and puppies and wants to see her last name on a billboard. Look at your annual revenues and ask yourself, "What is the maximum amount I can spend if I want to grow by 20% this year?" That is a key question. It has a goal attached that can be used to calculate a dollar amount. If you are a start-up, then this is probably mapped out in your business plan. Now you can go to an advertising agency with a marketing budget and a sense of what ROI needs to be obtained from the spend. The agency will tell you if they think your budget can achieve your ROI goals. You may need to adjust based on recommendations.
All Firms are Unique
There is very little that is uniform in the marketing world. Standarization occurs where it can, but "best practices" are not always established for the ever-changing world of advertising. Match your business with a firm that complements it. If you have $50,000 a year to spend, then you probably aren't talking to Young & Rubicam. You are probably speaking to a small-to-mid-sized firm with less than 50 people. The larger the agency, the bigger the building, the more equipment, the more toilette paper, the more books, the more media research subscriptions, the more payroll, the more, the more, the more. Costs of providing the tools and space to manage all the various disciplines of marketing go up with agency size and that affects rates and prices. A good agency cost more just like a good interior designer costs more.
You Get Out What You Put In it
Each agency will have its own process. A good agency will spend many hours and involve multiple people in the creative process to deliver the very best ideas to the client. Another agency might allow one guy to spend 2 hours and you get the best idea that came from that one person in that short time. I don't care how creative that one guy is, he needs time to think of ideas. You get what you pay for. More time usually means more creativity. The one who spends less time will be able to charge a lower price in less time at the cost of mediocre creative at the end of today. If mediocre is appealing to your audience, then go with it. I've seen it work. If your brand demands the very best and your audience will judge you by the level of your branding, then you will end up paying for the extra time. Now you begin to understand what price speaks to.
A firm of 5 people that can charge $200 for a print ad can't be compared to a firm that has 50 employees and charges $10,000 for a print campaign. Price cannot be the sole factor in this decision. There has to be a fit in so many other places as well as countless other considerations. Do your homework.
I will be posting more and more about these issues in order to educate business people that haven't had enough experience with agencies to know what they need to know. I've seen a lot of people get burned and then they don't trust agencies and every nickel on an invoice becomes and epic battle. The next post will be on agency selection processes.
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